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 No.1673[Reply]

What's an incel verdict on Sparta?

>Infanticide

<Male infanticide was wasteful only of the mother’s nine-month investment. By eliminating unpromising male infants, the community was not obliged to pay the costs of rearing a boy who would not, as Plutarch puts it, be of use to himself or to the state. The decision ostensibly satisfied eugenic considerations. The infant who failed the initial inspection was eliminated before he could produce children who were likely to inherit his undesirable characteristics.
<A question that is often raised is whether at Sparta girls as well as boys,were vulnerable to infanticide. Nowadays few scholars doubt that girls were regularly exposed in Athens.8 The need to furnish a dowry at, or even before, puberty, and the general devaluation of women, were probably among the reasons why a father might choose not to raise a daughter. Was Sparta the antithesis of Athens? Did Sparta expose all boys who did not appear to have the potential for becoming excellent soldiers, but raise all girls — except, one would suspect, those with obvious and debilitating physical abnormalities?9

<We may deduce from Plutarch’s description that at birth girls were simply handed over to the women. This conclusion is ex silentio; on the other hand, it can be argued that Plutarch was unusually scrupulous among Greek authors in remembering to mention women where it was appropriate. It seems that girls were not subjected to official scrutiny as were Spartan boys, nor, apparently, did fathers make a determination about rearing or exposing them, as they did in Athens. The women would test the babies for epilepsy or sickliness by seeing if a bath in undiluted wine would throw them into convulsions. Plutarch does not state whether the immersion ordeal was part of the official evaluation process, nor does he indicate the fate of the infants, presumably both male and female, who failed the wine-immersion test. He does not tell us whether the women took any action in the case of infants who had failed the test, but if they did not, then what was the point? If the decision to expose apparent weaklings was up to the women, they would have exercised a power usually reserved for men in the Greco-Roman world.

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 No.1733

>>1728
You roastie feminists are just moving the goalposts. The original pejorative just meant someone that doesn't have sex because that antithetical to women who pretty much universally can have sex with someone at anytime.
Also if it's pathetic to have sex with someone that doesn't desire you, what about all the women who are heartbroken when Chad pumps and dumps them? Are they as pathetic as incels too?
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 No.1734

>>1732
This has been common blackpill knowledge for years. Many incels argue that a white man can never be a true incel, just someone too lazy to improve themselves.
Not sure why you posted this as some kind of clap back. It completely aligns with my beliefs.
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 No.1735

>>1734
>Many incels argue that a white man can never be a true incel, just someone too lazy to improve themselves.
not everyone can afford to move to asia or india to play his white card tho, there is also a language barrier
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 No.1736

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>>1733
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 No.1742

>>1724
He thinks the low quality droppings whores offer nowadays is "sex". The joke that is commodification, lol.
The whole thing of whoring is a trap to laugh at those who are not in the club where sex is free and easy. If you're paying money for a pure lie and have the shame and trouble of being a whoremonger on top of it, you're an idiot. Don't pay those bitches a dime. The system will keep them up anyway - if there were no men buying whores, it would be necessary to support them like temple prostitutes, because it's part of the trap we live in. Intel ghouls will never give up prostitution and porn, because it's too useful for their purposes, and that's who proliferates porn as much as it has been. Sane countries know to stamp that shit out rather than let it take over everything.

Ugly truth is that most men are incel, but tell themselves their miserable existence is okay and don't want to be one of those people. No one likes a complainer, after all. There are many strategies for coping with this. The "golden age" where marriage was common was always a lie, and now the lie is being destroyed because it is no longer necessary. They're mandating orgies and artificial insemination and they're very aggressive about pushing it. They do not want us, and they never wanted us. If your only argument for yourself is that no one else will have you, that isn't a really good cause for fucking. Better for everyone to be alone.

Also Sparta got their shit kicked in by anyone who could beat a phalanx. which was eventually everyone. The Spartans were smart enough to know they were going to lose in the long term, but dumbasses like to take the name of the Spartans to justify their faggot versions of it, so they can get young men killed for horseshit. So, they're not a good example.
Bitches have always clamored for war though, and then claim to be the victims. It's all a great game to them, and if they suffer for it, it's just the way of the world and they keep going back to it. Few of them have any sustained principles to stop the war drive, and when they do it is almost always about an economic incentive since war is really fucking expensive. How can they have nice things for me me me if the money is all spent on weapons and paying off generals?
Sparta is not unique in exposing the unwanted children. That has always been the case. That's why abortion is Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.1559[Reply]

In an unsurprising turn of events, affording women unlimited rights while demanding 0 responsibility (i.e., catering to their demands) hasn't made them happier or improved their well being
Political implications?
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 No.1560

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 No.1588

>>1559
These are high-school students, anon. I wonder what the rate of suicide is for young male teens.

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 No.15[Reply]

>bare minimum requirements to have a gf in 2022
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 No.1421

qbcd
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 No.1423

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>>15
>wanting a gf
only homos want that
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 No.1424

>>1423
I have never seen a fat ninja before.

 No.1325[Reply]

>Andrew Tate, a notorious red pill speaker, was brought onto Pierce Morgan's show to discuss his exploding popularity as the number one person searched for in Google this year.
What are the political implications of the black and red pill hitting the mainstream?
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 No.1354

>>1353
>Not sure where you get the idea I'm a feminist lol. That's one thing I've never been accused of.
Because you parroted a feminist talking point. MGTOW isn't exactly obscure anymore if you're still taking that feminist critique at face value then you are a feminist. If it walks like a duck as they say.
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 No.1356

>>1354
No one but permaonline faggots, both men and women, know or care what mgtow is.
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 No.1357

>>1351
*When you have social value
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 No.1359

>>1356
>I purposely came into a thread about something I don't like and now I am mad. How can this be happening?
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 No.1409

>person who everyone is mocking makes the mainstream
christchurch shooter-tier nothingburger. everyone laughs at retard

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 No.1355[Reply]

>Do the masses reject Marxism and leftism because we aren't chad?

We can know that women don't really want to fuck anyone but chad, but sometimes they'll settle. Is it like that with the masses as well. For example, the won't put they're neck on the line to organize and fight for revolution unless there is a chad leader (think Mao or Fidel)?
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 No.1381

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>>1380
>Yeah bro I know they literally controlled an entire economy democratically and unionized millions of workers into syndicates but this just isn't "successful" base don my arbitrary metrics.

>Muh millions were lifted out of poverty

So what you are saying is that the end justify the means?
I am a socialist and my metrics for success as a socialist include a raise in the standards of living and more freedom for the people who live in that society. That is and always was the point of socialism until retards like stalin and Mao revised the words of Marx to include violating human rights and pogroms.

>Freedom doesn't mean shit when you're living on a diet of rats and get shelled every morning.

I can literally smell the vanilla late coming from your iced coffe while you type this on a macbook pro and your local starbucks. What do you do for a living?

People would rather have less economic freedom under capitalism and eat the soylent than have less freedom under socialism and a higher standard of living because of retards like you. Socialism is about a better life in totality for the proletariat of which you are not part of I am willing to be. I am certain I have pegged your typing habits on the board too and I am familiar with your posts. You are literally the biggest far huffing retard on the board and you need to fuck off and pull your head out of your own ass.
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 No.1382

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>>1381
>I am a socialist and my metrics for success as a socialist include a raise in the standards of living and more freedom for the people who live in that society
The latter is impossible without the former. In Stalin's words:
<"We did not build this society in order to restrict personal liberty but in order that the human individual may feel really free. We built it for the sake of real personal liberty, liberty without quotation marks. It is difficult for me to imagine what "personal liberty" is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment."

<"Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible."

>That is and always was the point of socialism until retards like stalin and Mao revised the words of Marx to include violating human rights and pogroms.
Socialism is about ending the class oppression of proletariat by the bourgeoisie. It is impossible to carry out a revolution in full, and defend it from outside reactionary forces, while playing by the rules of the bourgeoisie. What do you envision your politically correct revolution to look like, you vote in AOC and she expropriates the capitalists wealth with no resistance? Marx and Engles absolutely condoned the use of authoritarian by the proletariat during a revolution, it's called a 'dictatorship of the proletariat' for a reason!
>I can literally smell the vanilla late coming from your iced coffe while you type this on a macbook pro and your local starbucks. What do you do for a living?
I make minimum wage, hate coffee and Mac OS is shit. Stop strawmanning because you're losing the arguement.
>People would rather have less economic freedom under capitalism and eat the soylent than have less freedom under socialism and a higher standard of living because of retards like you.
Unfortunately my leftychan posts don't hav what much influence anon, I wish theyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1384

>>1382
I know what Stalin said. Again, you are not as smart as you think you are. Stalin was a revisionist megalomaniac. Nore do I really see why this is relevant because the two are not mutually exclusive. You are sitting there acting like you just can't hve freedom while you raise people standards of living when you absolutely can. Even if the USSR did good things it also failed in other ways and we should learn from them.
Ways like having centralized governmental bodies control the lives and choices of what ultimately belong to the will of the masses themselves. Unless your "socialist" movement involves that I do not want to be a part of it.

>Socialism is about ending the class oppression of proletariat by the bourgeoisie.

You're saying the exact same thing I am just in a different way. Obviously that is what it is about and what that is about itself is better lives for the people exploited by the hand of capitalism. Nore does democratic association mean "politically correct" you have to resort to these rhetorical tricks because you know you are on the loosing end of this argument because no one in modern times is willing to subjugate themselves to pogroms and authoritarianism under socialist movments. They only way to gain relevancy is to appeal to peoples sense of freedom in the modern era. You've clearly never done any actual organizing which is why you probably cannot seem to understand how unions and syndicates function, or, even soviets.

>I make minimum wage, hate coffee and Mac OS is shit. Stop strawmanning because you're losing the arguement.

=Cope==

>Unfortunately my leftychan posts don't hav what much influence anon, I wish they did…
But it is the monopoly the capitalists have on media and academia which has tricked masses into thinking that "freedom and democracy" is being able to choose from 800 brands of bottled water, and vote for one of two identical parties which despise them every 5 years. The reason the ruling class don't demonise Catalonia and Paris is not because they were perfect revolutions, but because they're so irrelevant. In fact, at the time the bourgeois media did point to the mass executions of priests and forced labour camps in Catalonia as proof of their evil. The difference is that socialistsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1385

>>1355
>mao
>balding fat sack of shit
>chad
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 No.1386

>>1371
>Yeah dude. The Paris commune is what right wingers point to all the time when they want to complain about how much of a failure socialism has been.
Tankies eternally BTFO'd.

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 No.1320[Reply]

>Roasties fend for Chad's seed so bad they're literally resurrecting it from the dead.
It's over.
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 No.1324

Companies like this will literally slap any thing ontop of a stock picture and call it "breaking news"

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 No.1309[Reply]

A popular british soap opera has recently introduced an incel storyline and it's the funniest shit I have seen in a while.

Is this seriously what normies think incels and the 'community' are like lmao
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 No.1310

are there any examples of more accurate depictions of incels?
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 No.1311

>It's posts on the internet that make incels believe the blackpill and not their shitty love lives.
Now this is idealism!
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 No.1312

>>1310
None, they've become liberals' new punching bag since you can't make fun of fags, retards or blacks anymore.
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 No.1313

>Dark Web Search
Are there any incel forums even on the dark web?

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 No.1214[Reply]

Incels don't deserve rights.

Here's what I mean. Banging a few chicks isn't very impressive. It's a rather low bar. But what does that say about a guy who can't even do that? It means they are a low quality man.
It's like being able to do one pull up. It's not very impressive. But if you can't do that, it means you are weak and have neglected to train your body.

A lot of incels run their mouths, thinking that they're offering insightful knowledge.
<You're not.

Listening to an incel talk about women is like listening to a homeless person talk about financial planning, or listening to a guy who can't do a pull up talk about fitness. In short, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, but have convinced yourself you do as some ghey coping mechanism.

Obviously, there is a grain of truth to incel screeds, in a hermetic philosophical sense. The problem is, it's the most disempowering truth available, framed in the worst way possible.

'Girls don't fuck average guys,' you say.

Ok, don't be average. Find a way to leverage aspects yourself to rise above your own stale faggotry. It's not that hard. And if it is too hard for you, then I guess you get exactly what you deserve considering you claim to know the consequences of being average.
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 No.1295

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>>1294
>centrists are chads

That's it.
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 No.1296

>>1294
>plurality of incele are left-wing
it's happening bros
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 No.1297

99% of the internet is bots, post-ironic trolling, astroturfing or mindless normies.
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 No.1298

>>1296
It's always been like that. The idea that incels were right wing was always a liberal cope.
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 No.1299

>>1298
All the virtue signal maxxxing to no avail

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 No.164[Reply]

Fuck rosties.

That is all.
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 No.957

>>955
Dude isn't even ugly just looksmaxxed it's fucking over
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 No.958

>>957
Dudes a faggy simp and gets treated appropriately
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 No.959

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>>164
>Fuck rosties.
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 No.1289

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how?where?

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 No.643[Reply]

What do you think leftychan, is it based or cringe?

The way I see it both sides seem to be benefitting, but at what point is one partner taking advantage of the other? Some would argue that this the next stage of economic imperialism from racially european men, as poor asian women are pressured into relationships for a chance to get a visa and a new life in the richer west. But if that's the case why does the trend continue for the richer asian diaspora living in the west? Or is the whole thing is based upon outdated racial stereotypes, which can be very damaging to the psyche of asian men (looking at you /r/aznidentity).
Or maybe white men and asian women just made for each other, and it's all harmless.

Discuss.
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 No.665

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I'm not sure why they haven't, especially in Japan where their population is crashing. I suspect it's because the booj can move capital so easily internationally now that they really aren't concerned with nationality anymore. Or that to enforce a brutal child support system like the US you need a sprawling police apparatus which isn't possible with states with smaller governments.
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 No.666

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Asian women are better partners because their native country governments have banned single mothers, so they date with intention.

In Asian countries women cannot turn men into their personal debt slaves via child support so they are forced to date men that will actually stick around and raise any child they give birth to, so their standards are way way lower because no one is stupid enough to think Chad will raise any of his bastards.

If Asian countries ever adopted the similar child support laws, Asian women would go right back to being as scornful of low status men as Western women are now.

The spectacle of attractive Asian women jumping into relationships with loser Western men lays this misandrist scam bare. Which is why feminists try to make it out to be about racism or Orientalism which it's not.

Slim, young women with clear skin and symmetrical features will always be desired by men.

What's funny is that Asian women are not even particularly feminine. It's just that Western women have gotten drunk off the tremendous power they have over men and long ago stopped trying to take care of their appearance and instead started demanding men find them attractive no matter how sloven they let themselves be. See the "fat acceptance movement" for an example, acceptance that is never extended to men.

The brutal child support and anti-male family court system keeps western women pumping out babies, but at the expense of ugly poor men who lose the chance to have their own children without at least raising one of Chad's children.

Asian countries could boost their population numbers by copying the US and EU misandrist system. I'm not sure why they haven't, especially in Japan where their population is crashing. I suspect it's because the booj can move capital so easily internationally now that they really aren't concerned with their own nations issues anymore. Or that to enforce a brutal child support system like the US you need a sprawling police apparatus which isn't possible with states with smaller governments.
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 No.671

>>666
No one going to comment on my bomb ass thesis.
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 No.672

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>>671
Anon there's no need to respond when you have those numbers… but yeah you're correct.
Foids demand abortion rights to "give women a choice" but then support turning men into their serfs with child support payments. The state should cover all costs of raising a child, but in absence of this women should take more things than just looks into account when looking for a partner to have a family with.
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 No.1154

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